TMR Game 2011 – Week 19

Hello and welcome to TMR Game Week 19.

This post accepts entries for these 3 events:

- MotoGP Catalunya
– DTM Spielberg Red Bull Ring (old A1-Ring)
– NASCAR Cup Kansas

Housekeeping

Each week you pick 10 entries with a maximum of 7 of those coming from a single championship. You can have any mix of races from those listed in this post, and you don’t have to use all of them.

See this page for the game rules.

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Scores

Week 18 Formula 1 IndyCar NASCAR Cup
Points Monaco Indianapolis Charlotte
50 Sebastian Vettel Dan Wheldon Kevin Harvick
40 Fernando Alonso JR Hildebrand David Ragan
35 Jenson Button Graham Rahal Joey Logano
32 Mark Webber Tony Kanaan Kurt Busch
30 Kamui Kobayashi Scott Dixon AJ Allmendinger
28 Lewis Hamilton Oriol Servia Marcos Ambrose
26 Adrian Sutil Bertrand Baguette Dale Earnhardt Jr
24 Nick Heidfeld Tomas Scheckter Regan Smith
22 Rubens Barrichello Marco Andretti David Reutimann
20 Sebastien Buemi Danica Patrick Denny Hamlin

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Scores This Week

Player F1 IndyCar NASCAR Week 18
The Speedgeek 209 121 0 330
Felipe Gana 185 97 0 282
Sean 145 110 15 270
Sebastian X 204 61 2 267
James 150 85 30 265
RubberGoat 185 79 0 264
Pat W 185 78 0 263
Maverick 193 66 0 259
Jackie 177 77 0 254
Ryan 178 53 0 231
Dylanpt24 110 87 32 229
Startledbunny 145 66 16 227
Jay 213 0 0 213
No Entry Received: 80% of lowest score
Mike Rice 182
The Crooked Cap 182

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Wow, a fantastic score for The Speedgeek, nice one Andy! The combination of not relying on Ganassi/Penske (primary teams) as well as picking 5 of the top 6 from Monaco was clearly a good one.

Sean and Sebastian again feature in the top four, still making it hard for the rest of us to catch up. It could be noted that Sebastian would’ve beaten Sean by two points had he stuck with Heidfeld instead of changing to Rosberg, but who expected Rosberg to drop back like that?

Quite a few were hit by poor results from hotly-tipped runners in the Indy 500, and again some in the Coca-Cola 600.

I took the 80% score from the lowest full entry of ten drivers rather than Jay’s seven F1 drivers, as that strikes me as being the fairest thing to do. That means Crooked Cap and Mike get 182 rather than 170.

Do check the more detailed sheet produced by Sebastian.

Leaderboard

Pos Pre +/- Name Prior Wk 18 Total +
1 1 0 Sean 3531 270 3801
2 2 0 Sebastian X 3463 267 3730 71
3 3 0 RubberGoat 3341 264 3605 125
4 4 0 Pat W 3311 263 3574 31
5 5 0 Felipe Gana 3266 282 3548 26
6 11 5 The Speedgeek 3123 330 3453 95
7 6 -1 James 3182 265 3447 6
8 7 -1 Startledbunny 3161 227 3388 59
9 10 1 Jackie 3132 254 3386 2
10 12 2 Maverick 3121 259 3380 6
11 9 -2 Dylanpt24 3143 229 3372 8
12 8 -4 The Crooked Cap 3159 182 3341 31
13 13 0 Ryan 3046 231 3277 64
14 14 0 Jay 2976 213 3189 88
15 15 0 Mike Rice 2491 182 2673 516

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The Speedgeek jumps up a fantastic five places! He now heads that big group fighting over 6th position and another good result will see him close on the group ahead.

The VivaF1 pair of Jackie and Mav made up positions to sit inside the top ten.

Up front, Sean’s lead is now 71 points over Sebastian. Rubbergoat and I hold steady but Felipe is closing in.

Question

We’re coming up quickly on the Texas round of the IndyCar Series, which poses a problem. Rather than run a single 500km race as in the past, they’ve split it into 2 x 275s and they say they’ll award half-points for each segment, yet treat each race win as a race win. That’s contradictory to me and maybe my facts are out of date. But it leads to a question:

Question – When it comes to the TMR Game, should I award half points or full points to each of the two parts?

I’d be interested in your take. I already have an opinion on this but I want to know what you think.

Upcoming Races

There are another three races this weekend, though I suspect the picks will be a little more predictable this time around. I have to say… there’s a great big hole here where the Milwaukee IndyCar race should be. It had better be back next year.

MotoGP: Catalunya

Just two weeks after F1 visited Barcelona it holds another Grand Prix, this time of the two-wheeled kind. A year ago this featured an amazing battle for the win, can it do it again this year or will it revert to a semblance of normality?

www.motogp.com

DTM: Spielberg

The long-awaited return of the Austrian circuit formerly known as the A1-Ring and the Osterreichring before that. The rebuilt Red Bull Ring has had millions poured into it from the energy drinks giant to bring it up to spec again and I’m so pleased a fairly major series is visiting it so soon.

http://www.dtm.com/index.php?lang=en&

NASCAR Cup: Kansas

After the fuss of the Coca-Cola 600 and the fortnight at Charlotte it is back to the regular weekly grind, it just never seems to stop for a break! I get all these 1.5-milers mixed up but I think I like Kansas as an IndyCar track, hopefully it produces good Cup races too.

www.nascar.com

Good luck!

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17 responses to “TMR Game 2011 – Week 19

  1. This is somewhat a place-holder entry. I await fitness news for Pedrosa, and other factors might change my choices.

    DTM:
    Bruno Spengler
    Gary Paffett
    Timo Scheider
    Mattias Ekström
    Jamie Green

    MotoGP:
    Jorge Lorenzo
    Dani Pedrosa
    Casey Stoner
    Andrea Dovizioso
    Valentino Rossi

    If we treat the Texas Indycar event as two distinct races, then presumably that would mean nominating drivers separately for race-one and race-two in what is already a five-event week (and could lead to problems if somebody posts their entry late in the week without being aware they have to specify for which of the two races). What about we average the TMRG points for both legs, thus if a driver finishs second and eleventh, that is (40+19)/2 = 29.5, which would be rounded up to 30? The rounding up would slightly improve the total of scores for all drivers, but that would be counteracted by any drivers that crashed in leg-one and were unable to start leg-two, thus getting zero for the second leg and scoring less points than if they had crashed early in a single-race event. Alternately, we could just pick one race and ignore the other. (If it was not for the random grid for leg-two, I would suggest treating it all as one race with a break.) Leg-one has normal qualification so we could just score that.

    There is information on the format here.

  2. I like the idea of treating it as two separate races with one set of picks.

  3. DTM
    Bruno Spengler
    Mike Rockenfeller
    Martin Tomczyk

    MOTO GP
    Jorge Lorenzo
    Casey Stoner
    Andrea Dovizioso
    Valentino Rossi

    NASCAR
    Kevin Harvick
    Jimmie Johnson
    Carl Edwards

  4. Mav

    MotoGP:
    Lorenzo
    Stoner
    Dovizioso
    Simoncelli
    Rossi
    (Pedrosa won’t be racing this weekend, by the way)

    DTM:
    Spengler
    Paffett
    Scheider
    Tomczyk
    Ekstrom

    Texas: Easiest thing to do, and representative of what they’re doing anyway, is for us to have one set of picks which are entered into both halves of the race with half points at stake from each. Certainly, I’d say avoid being able to pick different sets of drivers for each half.

  5. MotoGP: Dovizioso, Lorenzo, Rossi, Stoner
    DTM: Rockenfeller, Spengler, Tomczyk
    Cup: Ambrose, Edwards, Kenseth (I almost picked David Ragan even)

  6. MotoGP: Lorenzo, Dovizioso, Stoner, Rossi
    DTM: Paffett, Ekstrom, Spengler, Scheider
    Cup: Harvick, Kenseth

    I agree with Mav about Texas.

  7. MotoGP: Jorge Lorenzo, Ben Spies, Casey Stoner, Valentino Rossi
    NASCAR: Kyle Busch, Carl Edwards, Kevin Harvick, Dale Junior, Jeff Gordon, Clint Bowyer.

  8. Amended line-up:

    DTM:
    Bruno Spengler
    Gary Paffett
    Timo Scheider
    Mattias Ekström
    Jamie Green

    MotoGP:
    Jorge Lorenzo
    Casey Stoner
    Andrea Dovizioso
    Valentino Rossi

    NASCAR:
    Jimmie Johnson

  9. DTM
    Bruno Spengler
    Mike Rockenfeller
    Mattias Ekstrom

    MOTO GP
    Jorge Lorenzo
    Casey Stoner
    Andrea Dovizioso
    Valentino Rossi

    NASCAR
    Greg Biffle
    Jimmie Johnson
    Carl Edwards

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    Re: Texas. I agree with Mav, I think the easier way to do it is counting half points for each race with only one group of picks.

  10. Ryan

    Well, that went better than I actually thought it would. Agree with Mav about Texas also.

    DTM: Spengler, Ekstrom, Tomczyk
    MotoGP: Lorenzo, Stoner, Dovizioso, Simoncelli
    NASCAR: Johnson, Kyle Busch, Kenseth

  11. MotoGP:
    Casey Stoner
    Marco Simoncelli
    Andrea Dovizioso
    Jorge Lorenzo
    Colin Edwards

    DTM:
    Bruno Spengler
    Mike Rockenfeller
    Mattias Ekstrom
    Jamie Green
    Gary Paffett

  12. Oh, and put me down for “half points for each Texas IndyCar race” with one set of picks covering the two. It’ll produce a more bunched up set of points (i.e. it’ll be harder for somebody to make a breakaway like I did last week), but I think it’s really the only fair way to do it.

  13. DTM:
    Spengler
    Scheider
    Paffett
    Ekström

    MotoGP:
    Rossi
    Lorenzo
    Stoner
    Dovizioso

    NASCAR
    Kenseth
    Johnson

  14. rubbergoat

    Not fussed about how you treat the Texas race.

    Picks:

    MotoGP
    1. Stoner
    2. Rossi
    3. Lorenzo
    4. Simoncelli

    DTM:
    5. Spemgler
    6. Ekstrom
    7. Green
    8. Paffett

    NASCAR
    9. Johnson
    10. Kenseth

  15. Hmmm, please swap Colin Edwards out of my MotoGP group for Ben Spies.

    Thanks!

  16. thecrookedcap

    I will not miss this week:

    MotoGP
    Lorenzo
    Simoncelli
    Stoner
    Rossi
    Dovizioso

    DTM
    Spengler
    Rockenfeller

    NASCAR
    Edwards
    Johnson
    Harvick

  17. Late change of mind. I was very 50:50 if I should replace Pedrosa with Johnson or Spies. Well the Fords are looking perky at Kansas and the MotoGP field is down to fifteen…

    DTM:
    Bruno Spengler
    Gary Paffett
    Timo Scheider
    Mattias Ekström
    Jamie Green

    MotoGP:
    Jorge Lorenzo
    Casey Stoner
    Andrea Dovizioso
    Valentino Rossi
    Ben Spies

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