Welcome to Week 16 of the Too Much Racing Game!
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First of all, I hope you like the new theme! I think it makes things easier to read as the text doesn’t get lost in the background, and the links and other devices aren’t cluttered in one place. [Photo – Petter Solberg at Rally New Zealand, ZumaPress via Picapp]
You can read my thoughts on the Spanish GP in my previous post, I heard the LMS was utterly chaotic but a good race, I look forward to catching up with it. I saw the highlights of the WRC New Zealand, and what a turn of events – Loeb fell to 8th nearly 2 minutes down on day 1, but fought back valiantly to close the gap in one of the best comeback drives rallying has seen on day 2, before on the final day both he and his fellow previous frontrunners all encountered spins (including a retirement for Petter) and allowed the consistent Latvala to take the win on the final stage!
Quick-Start
Racing this week:
Formula 1 – Monaco GP;
Sprint Cup – Dover, Delaware;
Usual restrictions apply, pick up to 10 drivers, no more than 7 from one race.
The cutoff is Saturday 15th May at 4.59am BST (British Summer Time = GMT+1), that’s 11.59pm Friday night US EDT.
For the full results from Week 15, read on.
Admin
Due to the lack of DNF results for the WRC I’m unable to award lower-order points to Petter Solberg as I would in other series, it would mean trawling through the timesheets for each stage to work out the order of retirements (for every car and discounting those returning under SuperRally), and if I do that for a rally where that would be relatively easy (i.e. this one), that would set the precedent to have to do it for rallies when someone retires on day one, and I don’t have time to do that for up to 25 stages in a rally. This fact added to the Thursday/Friday running in rallying may cost the WRC a place in the TMRG next year should the game continue.
Sebastian has led a discussion in the comments regarding the use of Carryovers in the case of not receiving an entry, and instead using a notional score representing a percentage of the lowest scored achieved by a full-entry. e.g. last week Startledbunny was the lowest scorer, and we’d give non-entries between 50-70% of that score (a percentage would be agreed). I was sceptical when the idea was raised early in the life of the game, having seen how things are panning out I can see the merits of it and how the carryover system which works elsewhere doesn’t work in this case because we’re playing with different series from week to week, most of the time. It is too late to adapt the game for this season, it wouldn’t be right to run to two systems in a year or to apply new scores retrospectively, but the idea is worth revisiting for 2011.
I’m also going to be updating the Game page linked through the header when I get a ten or fifteen minutes to focus on it, it needs reworking into a more useful resource.
After the excitement of these four events we have a quieter weekend ahead with just the two races, though one of them is a classic.
How To Enter
1. Reply to this post.
2. List up to 10 drivers, with no more than 7 from a single event.
3. Send your entry before the stated deadline, usually some time on a Friday. You can make as many changes as you like until the closing point, I’ll take your last entry.
Most weeks feature 2 or 3 races, some weeks may have more than that and some may only have one. There’s not a rule stating you have to choose a driver in each race, any combination of up to 10 drivers is accepted.
On to the results!
Top Tens – Week 15
Week 15 | Formula 1 | WRC | NASCAR Cup | |
Points | Barcelona | New Zealand | Darlington | |
1 | 50 | Mark Webber | Jari-Matti Latvala | Denny Hamlin |
2 | 40 | Fernando Alonso | Sebastien Ogier | Jamie McMurray |
3 | 35 | Sebastian Vettel | Sebastien Loeb | Kurt Busch |
4 | 32 | Michael Schumacher | Mikko Hirvonen | Jeff Gordon |
5 | 30 | Jenson Button | Dani Sordo | Juan Montoya |
6 | 28 | Felipe Massa | Matthew Wilson | Kevin Harvick |
7 | 26 | Adrian Sutil | Henning Solberg | Kyle Busch |
8 | 24 | Robert Kubica | Jari Ketomaa | Jeff Burton |
9 | 22 | Rubens Barrichello | Federico Villagra | Ryan Newman |
10 | 20 | Jaime Alguersuari | Xavier Pons | Brian Vickers |
Le Mans Series | ||||
Points | Spa-Franchorchamps | |||
1 | 50 | Lamy / Bourdais / Pagenaud | ||
2 | 40 | Montagny / Sarrazin | ||
3 | 35 | Capello / Kristensen / McNish | ||
4 | 32 | Gene / Wurz / Davidson | ||
5 | 30 | Bernhard / Dumas / Rockenfeller | ||
6 | 28 | Amaral / Pla | ||
7 | 26 | Erdos / Newton / Wallace | ||
8 | 24 | Moreau / Hein | ||
9 | 22 | Layahe / Nicolet | ||
10 | 20 | Geri / A.Piccini / G.Piccini |
EDIT – I forgot that Minassian did not race. I have updated the scoring, apologies.
Hamilton’s misfortune with his wheel rim or tyre delamination (whatever it was!) did cost a few people some points. Everybody who picked an F1 driver chose Vettel, I’m happy to say I was the only one to choose Webber! Quite pleased with that, I was worried he’d get squeezed out again and I think most were thinking along the same lines.
I haven’t caught up with the Cup race at all other than to score the drivers, it seems to be a very different order to usual though! Not all that many of us chose drivers in the series though so perhaps the points loss relative to others wasn’t so bad.
With Loeb 3rd and most people’s second-pick Hirvonen 4th there was a reasonble haul of points, perhaps not as much as people were expecting though. Some did go for Ogier as well and they were rewarded.
All of our picks finished in the top four of the LMS, though with all kinds of combinations chosen it was again the sportscar race which defined the overall points scores we received this week. I’m not sure whether my being the only person to pick two winning drivers was down to luck or judgement!
Let’s see how that translates into scores..
Points Awarded – Week 15
Player | F1 | WRC | LMS | N-Cup | Week 15 | |
1 | Pat W | 85 | 67 | 199 | 0 | 351 |
2 | The Speedgeek | 35 | 35 | 211 | 35 | 316 |
3 | Sebastian | 35 | 67 | 209 | 0 | 311 |
4 | RG | 98 | 107 | 102 | 0 | 307 |
5 | Sean | 105 | 35 | 125 | 33 | 298 |
6 | Startledbunny | 149 | 107 | 32 | 1 | 289 |
7 | Jon Waldock | 86 | 67 | 102 | 29 | 284 |
8 | James | 81 | 32 | 110 | 32 | 255 |
9 | Burwellian | 149 | 0 | 0 | 86 | 235 |
10 | Dank | 0 | 0 | 0 | 93 | 93 |
11 | Jackie | 0 | 0 | 0 | 59 | 59 |
Self-congratulation isn’t very becoming and is a touch embarrassing! So I will congratulate The Speedgeek, Sebastian and RG for also scoring well.
There were some big variances in the scoring this week as I had thought there might be, and it seems the big difference was in the LMS picks, those of us who leaned toward that series were rewarded. Most of us put Cup on the backburner and that turned out to be a wise decision.
Overall Standings – Week 15
Pos | Pre | +/- | Name | Prior | Wk 15 | Total |
1 | 2 | 1 | Pat W | 3364 | 351 | 3715 |
2 | 1 | -1 | Sebastian | 3375 | 311 | 3686 |
3 | 3 | 0 | The Speedgeek | 3315 | 316 | 3631 |
4 | 4 | 0 | Sean | 3281 | 298 | 3579 |
5 | 5 | 0 | Jon Waldock | 3213 | 284 | 3497 |
6 | 7 | 1 | RG | 3179 | 307 | 3486 |
7 | 6 | -1 | James | 3188 | 255 | 3443 |
8 | 8 | 0 | Burwellian | 2914 | 235 | 3149 |
9 | 9 | 0 | Startledbunny | 2678 | 289 | 2967 |
10 | 10 | 0 | Jackie | 1932 | 59 | 1991 |
11 | 11 | 0 | Dank | 1567 | 93 | 1660 |
I’ve taken a slender lead, from Sebastian who also scored well this week, while The Speedgeek remains in third again with a good weekly score – it would seem the lead battle is distilling down to the three of us, for the moment at least. James and Sean were on a course to catch up later in the season as they’ve been scoring very well for weeks, but this week their progress has been halted temporarily. James actually lost a place to a resurgent RG.
You can see how a week with a variety of events can shake up the scoring, so while things look a little more spread out this week it could easily go back the other way . There are three more weeks with four or more events before the season is out and the next of those is in just two weeks. The variety came from the multiple drivers of the sportscar races though, so I’m sure we’re all looking forward to Laguna Seca next week!
Full results sheets will be available on the TMR drop.io shortly, the Total Driver page on the Data file won’t have been updated but it isn’t essential.
Coming Up – Week 16
This week we have two events to choose from.
Formula 1 – While Red Bull were dominant in Spain, this week’s Monaco GP could be a different matter as the team struggled there last year – is there car advantage enough this year? Will it break again? With the traffic too, qualifying could shake things up let alone the lapping during the race. www.f1.com
NASCAR Cup – Dover this week… going to be honest, I’m clueless on this one. www.nascar.com
I think that’s everything, any questions just ask in the comments, and good luck!
Love the new layout Pat 🙂
Oops yes, I missed the deadline last week (sorry) but with F1 to choose from this week I’m hoping for a few points. I’m just about to head off to Bristol for the day so will add my list later this evening.
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Oooh, very good week for me. Right back behind ya Jon… For a change, I’ll announce my 10 early
Formula 1
Nico Rosberg
Lewis Hamilton
Jenson Button
Robert Kubica
Jaime Alguesuari
Fernando Alonso
NASCAR
Kevin Harvick
Kyle Busch
Jeff Burton
Ryan Newman
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Formula 1
Sebastian Vettel
Mark Webber
Lewis Hamilton
Jenson Button
Fernando Alonso
Felipe Massa
NASCAR
Kevin Harvick
Jimmie Johnson
Jeff Gordon
Kyle Busch
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F1:
Jenson Button
Lewis Hamilton
Sebastian Vettel
Mark Webber
Fernando Alonso
Nico Rosberg
NASCAR:
Jimmie Johnson
Jeff Gordon
Juan Montoya
Kyle Busch
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Rats! Well done Patrick and thanks for all the work.
Formula One:
Fernando Alonso
Felipe Massa
Jenson Button
Lewis Hamilton
Nico Rosberg
Sebastien Vettel
Mark Webber
NASCAR:
Jimmie Johnston
Jeff Gordon
Matt Kenseth
I am tired and might rethink this tomorrow but I wanted to get an entry in just in case.
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F1:
Fernando Alonso
Jenson Button
Lewis Hamilton
Felipe Massa
Sebastian Vettel
Mark Webber
NASCAR
Jeff Gordon
Matt Kenseth
Juan Pablo Montoya
Tony Stewart
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Formula 1
Lewis Hamilton
Michael Schumacher
Fernando Alonso
Sebastian Vettel
Mark Webber
Jenson Button
Nascar
Kevin Harvick
Jimmie Johnson
Kyle Busch
Jeff Gordon
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After due reconsideration, my amended entry is:
Formula One:
Fernando Alonso
Felipe Massa
Jenson Button
Lewis Hamilton
Sebastien Vettel
Michael Schumacher
Robert Kubica
NASCAR:
Jimmie Johnston
Jeff Gordon
Matt Kenseth
(Pat, as your Grandad was at the 1950 British Grand Prix, could you not persuade him to do a post, or interview him for a post? I do not think I would be the only one interested to hear about his day, what the atmosphere was like, about any support races, what the facilities were like, et cetera.)
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F1:
Fernando Alonso
Mark Webber
Jenson Button
Lewis Hamilton
Felipe Massa
Nico Rosberg
Sebastian Vettel
NASCAR Cup:
Greg Biffle
Jimmie Johnson
Denny Hamlin
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I lost a place! I demand a recount (and then a coalition of points so that I’m in the lead).
F1
Sebastien Vettel
Fernando Alonso
Felipe Massa
Jenson Button
Robert Kubica
NASCAR
Jimmie Johnson
Jeff Gordon
Martin Truex Jr.
Kyle Busch
Tony Stewart
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Good idea! He was also a regular visitor to the Smeatharpe short oval in Devon. Could be a few interesting stories in there. Thanks for the suggestion.
Not many in the family know I have a blog, it’d be like revealing a secret life!
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By the way, forgot to say thanks for the link in your blogs list.
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