Hello and welcome to TMR Game Week 19.
This post accepts entries for these 3 events:
– MotoGP Catalunya
– DTM Spielberg Red Bull Ring (old A1-Ring)
– NASCAR Cup Kansas
Housekeeping
Each week you pick 10 entries with a maximum of 7 of those coming from a single championship. You can have any mix of races from those listed in this post, and you don’t have to use all of them.
See this page for the game rules.
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Scores
Week 18 | Formula 1 | IndyCar | NASCAR Cup |
Points | Monaco | Indianapolis | Charlotte |
50 | Sebastian Vettel | Dan Wheldon | Kevin Harvick |
40 | Fernando Alonso | JR Hildebrand | David Ragan |
35 | Jenson Button | Graham Rahal | Joey Logano |
32 | Mark Webber | Tony Kanaan | Kurt Busch |
30 | Kamui Kobayashi | Scott Dixon | AJ Allmendinger |
28 | Lewis Hamilton | Oriol Servia | Marcos Ambrose |
26 | Adrian Sutil | Bertrand Baguette | Dale Earnhardt Jr |
24 | Nick Heidfeld | Tomas Scheckter | Regan Smith |
22 | Rubens Barrichello | Marco Andretti | David Reutimann |
20 | Sebastien Buemi | Danica Patrick | Denny Hamlin |
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Scores This Week
Player | F1 | IndyCar | NASCAR | Week 18 |
The Speedgeek | 209 | 121 | 0 | 330 |
Felipe Gana | 185 | 97 | 0 | 282 |
Sean | 145 | 110 | 15 | 270 |
Sebastian X | 204 | 61 | 2 | 267 |
James | 150 | 85 | 30 | 265 |
RubberGoat | 185 | 79 | 0 | 264 |
Pat W | 185 | 78 | 0 | 263 |
Maverick | 193 | 66 | 0 | 259 |
Jackie | 177 | 77 | 0 | 254 |
Ryan | 178 | 53 | 0 | 231 |
Dylanpt24 | 110 | 87 | 32 | 229 |
Startledbunny | 145 | 66 | 16 | 227 |
Jay | 213 | 0 | 0 | 213 |
No Entry Received: 80% of lowest score | ||||
Mike Rice | 182 | |||
The Crooked Cap | 182 |
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Wow, a fantastic score for The Speedgeek, nice one Andy! The combination of not relying on Ganassi/Penske (primary teams) as well as picking 5 of the top 6 from Monaco was clearly a good one.
Sean and Sebastian again feature in the top four, still making it hard for the rest of us to catch up. It could be noted that Sebastian would’ve beaten Sean by two points had he stuck with Heidfeld instead of changing to Rosberg, but who expected Rosberg to drop back like that?
Quite a few were hit by poor results from hotly-tipped runners in the Indy 500, and again some in the Coca-Cola 600.
I took the 80% score from the lowest full entry of ten drivers rather than Jay’s seven F1 drivers, as that strikes me as being the fairest thing to do. That means Crooked Cap and Mike get 182 rather than 170.
Do check the more detailed sheet produced by Sebastian.
Leaderboard
Pos | Pre | +/- | Name | Prior | Wk 18 | Total | + |
1 | 1 | 0 | Sean | 3531 | 270 | 3801 | |
2 | 2 | 0 | Sebastian X | 3463 | 267 | 3730 | 71 |
3 | 3 | 0 | RubberGoat | 3341 | 264 | 3605 | 125 |
4 | 4 | 0 | Pat W | 3311 | 263 | 3574 | 31 |
5 | 5 | 0 | Felipe Gana | 3266 | 282 | 3548 | 26 |
6 | 11 | 5 | The Speedgeek | 3123 | 330 | 3453 | 95 |
7 | 6 | -1 | James | 3182 | 265 | 3447 | 6 |
8 | 7 | -1 | Startledbunny | 3161 | 227 | 3388 | 59 |
9 | 10 | 1 | Jackie | 3132 | 254 | 3386 | 2 |
10 | 12 | 2 | Maverick | 3121 | 259 | 3380 | 6 |
11 | 9 | -2 | Dylanpt24 | 3143 | 229 | 3372 | 8 |
12 | 8 | -4 | The Crooked Cap | 3159 | 182 | 3341 | 31 |
13 | 13 | 0 | Ryan | 3046 | 231 | 3277 | 64 |
14 | 14 | 0 | Jay | 2976 | 213 | 3189 | 88 |
15 | 15 | 0 | Mike Rice | 2491 | 182 | 2673 | 516 |
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The Speedgeek jumps up a fantastic five places! He now heads that big group fighting over 6th position and another good result will see him close on the group ahead.
The VivaF1 pair of Jackie and Mav made up positions to sit inside the top ten.
Up front, Sean’s lead is now 71 points over Sebastian. Rubbergoat and I hold steady but Felipe is closing in.
Question
We’re coming up quickly on the Texas round of the IndyCar Series, which poses a problem. Rather than run a single 500km race as in the past, they’ve split it into 2 x 275s and they say they’ll award half-points for each segment, yet treat each race win as a race win. That’s contradictory to me and maybe my facts are out of date. But it leads to a question:
Question – When it comes to the TMR Game, should I award half points or full points to each of the two parts?
I’d be interested in your take. I already have an opinion on this but I want to know what you think.
Upcoming Races
There are another three races this weekend, though I suspect the picks will be a little more predictable this time around. I have to say… there’s a great big hole here where the Milwaukee IndyCar race should be. It had better be back next year.
MotoGP: Catalunya
Just two weeks after F1 visited Barcelona it holds another Grand Prix, this time of the two-wheeled kind. A year ago this featured an amazing battle for the win, can it do it again this year or will it revert to a semblance of normality?
DTM: Spielberg
The long-awaited return of the Austrian circuit formerly known as the A1-Ring and the Osterreichring before that. The rebuilt Red Bull Ring has had millions poured into it from the energy drinks giant to bring it up to spec again and I’m so pleased a fairly major series is visiting it so soon.
http://www.dtm.com/index.php?lang=en&
NASCAR Cup: Kansas
After the fuss of the Coca-Cola 600 and the fortnight at Charlotte it is back to the regular weekly grind, it just never seems to stop for a break! I get all these 1.5-milers mixed up but I think I like Kansas as an IndyCar track, hopefully it produces good Cup races too.
Good luck!
This is somewhat a place-holder entry. I await fitness news for Pedrosa, and other factors might change my choices.
DTM:
Bruno Spengler
Gary Paffett
Timo Scheider
Mattias Ekström
Jamie Green
MotoGP:
Jorge Lorenzo
Dani Pedrosa
Casey Stoner
Andrea Dovizioso
Valentino Rossi
If we treat the Texas Indycar event as two distinct races, then presumably that would mean nominating drivers separately for race-one and race-two in what is already a five-event week (and could lead to problems if somebody posts their entry late in the week without being aware they have to specify for which of the two races). What about we average the TMRG points for both legs, thus if a driver finishs second and eleventh, that is (40+19)/2 = 29.5, which would be rounded up to 30? The rounding up would slightly improve the total of scores for all drivers, but that would be counteracted by any drivers that crashed in leg-one and were unable to start leg-two, thus getting zero for the second leg and scoring less points than if they had crashed early in a single-race event. Alternately, we could just pick one race and ignore the other. (If it was not for the random grid for leg-two, I would suggest treating it all as one race with a break.) Leg-one has normal qualification so we could just score that.
There is information on the format here.
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I like the idea of treating it as two separate races with one set of picks.
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DTM
Bruno Spengler
Mike Rockenfeller
Martin Tomczyk
MOTO GP
Jorge Lorenzo
Casey Stoner
Andrea Dovizioso
Valentino Rossi
NASCAR
Kevin Harvick
Jimmie Johnson
Carl Edwards
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MotoGP:
Lorenzo
Stoner
Dovizioso
Simoncelli
Rossi
(Pedrosa won’t be racing this weekend, by the way)
DTM:
Spengler
Paffett
Scheider
Tomczyk
Ekstrom
Texas: Easiest thing to do, and representative of what they’re doing anyway, is for us to have one set of picks which are entered into both halves of the race with half points at stake from each. Certainly, I’d say avoid being able to pick different sets of drivers for each half.
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MotoGP: Dovizioso, Lorenzo, Rossi, Stoner
DTM: Rockenfeller, Spengler, Tomczyk
Cup: Ambrose, Edwards, Kenseth (I almost picked David Ragan even)
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MotoGP: Lorenzo, Dovizioso, Stoner, Rossi
DTM: Paffett, Ekstrom, Spengler, Scheider
Cup: Harvick, Kenseth
I agree with Mav about Texas.
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MotoGP: Jorge Lorenzo, Ben Spies, Casey Stoner, Valentino Rossi
NASCAR: Kyle Busch, Carl Edwards, Kevin Harvick, Dale Junior, Jeff Gordon, Clint Bowyer.
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Amended line-up:
DTM:
Bruno Spengler
Gary Paffett
Timo Scheider
Mattias Ekström
Jamie Green
MotoGP:
Jorge Lorenzo
Casey Stoner
Andrea Dovizioso
Valentino Rossi
NASCAR:
Jimmie Johnson
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DTM
Bruno Spengler
Mike Rockenfeller
Mattias Ekstrom
MOTO GP
Jorge Lorenzo
Casey Stoner
Andrea Dovizioso
Valentino Rossi
NASCAR
Greg Biffle
Jimmie Johnson
Carl Edwards
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Re: Texas. I agree with Mav, I think the easier way to do it is counting half points for each race with only one group of picks.
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Well, that went better than I actually thought it would. Agree with Mav about Texas also.
DTM: Spengler, Ekstrom, Tomczyk
MotoGP: Lorenzo, Stoner, Dovizioso, Simoncelli
NASCAR: Johnson, Kyle Busch, Kenseth
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MotoGP:
Casey Stoner
Marco Simoncelli
Andrea Dovizioso
Jorge Lorenzo
Colin Edwards
DTM:
Bruno Spengler
Mike Rockenfeller
Mattias Ekstrom
Jamie Green
Gary Paffett
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Oh, and put me down for “half points for each Texas IndyCar race” with one set of picks covering the two. It’ll produce a more bunched up set of points (i.e. it’ll be harder for somebody to make a breakaway like I did last week), but I think it’s really the only fair way to do it.
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DTM:
Spengler
Scheider
Paffett
Ekström
MotoGP:
Rossi
Lorenzo
Stoner
Dovizioso
NASCAR
Kenseth
Johnson
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Not fussed about how you treat the Texas race.
Picks:
MotoGP
1. Stoner
2. Rossi
3. Lorenzo
4. Simoncelli
DTM:
5. Spemgler
6. Ekstrom
7. Green
8. Paffett
NASCAR
9. Johnson
10. Kenseth
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Hmmm, please swap Colin Edwards out of my MotoGP group for Ben Spies.
Thanks!
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I will not miss this week:
MotoGP
Lorenzo
Simoncelli
Stoner
Rossi
Dovizioso
DTM
Spengler
Rockenfeller
NASCAR
Edwards
Johnson
Harvick
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Late change of mind. I was very 50:50 if I should replace Pedrosa with Johnson or Spies. Well the Fords are looking perky at Kansas and the MotoGP field is down to fifteen…
DTM:
Bruno Spengler
Gary Paffett
Timo Scheider
Mattias Ekström
Jamie Green
MotoGP:
Jorge Lorenzo
Casey Stoner
Andrea Dovizioso
Valentino Rossi
Ben Spies
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